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you told me that egypt would elect a moderate government. in fact, they went with the muslim brotherhood, a terrorist organization. the iranians kee keep threatenio wipe israel off the map. hamas keeps firing thousands of rockets into israel. i don't hear a lot of moderation. you keep telling me it's out there. i don't see it, and i don't hear it. why? >> shawn, just google it. muslims have condemned the action of hamas. >> who? >> continuously. >> who? >> muslims around the world. the prime minister of turkey supports it. the prime minister of egypt supports hamas. the iranians are providing the weapons for hamas. the people of egypt just voted in the muslim brother medical. i have no idea what you're talking about. >> i think what they're supporting is not hamas' action but their right to freedom, their right to have their own government. >> they're supporting their actions. that's not true. you're wrong. >> they don't support their action. terrorism is wrong. shelling rockets in israel is wrong. >> who is saying that? who in the muslim wo
you told me that egypt would elect a moderate government. in fact, they went with the muslim brotherhood, a terrorist organization. the iranians kee keep threatenio wipe israel off the map. hamas keeps firing thousands of rockets into israel. i don't hear a lot of moderation. you keep telling me it's out there. i don't see it, and i don't hear it. why? >> shawn, just google it. muslims have condemned the action of hamas. >> who? >> continuously. >> who? >> muslims...
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. >> egypt has a lot of natural gas. that is really a attracting some investors to the country including this german engineering firm that runs several chemical factories in egypt. bmw also runs a production facility just outside of cairo. overall, german industries have been relatively modest that just 470 million euro per year. countries like china and turkey have a much stronger presence. >> the size of the german economy and the importance of the egyptian markets and tail that we have to work harder to increase the amount. 600 is important, but we would like to see more german investment in supporting egypt's, invest in supporting democracy. >> political events have been featured at the root conference, not only the arabs bring an opportunity in the region but also the current escalation of the israeli-palestinian conflict. it could complicate german- egyptian cooperation. what's the question as to what extent germany and the european union cannot, or want, to get involved in this conflict. it's interesting and the a
. >> egypt has a lot of natural gas. that is really a attracting some investors to the country including this german engineering firm that runs several chemical factories in egypt. bmw also runs a production facility just outside of cairo. overall, german industries have been relatively modest that just 470 million euro per year. countries like china and turkey have a much stronger presence. >> the size of the german economy and the importance of the egyptian markets and tail that...
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, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved diplomatically. they were pushing for the success of the diplomatic track while all the time preparing the military track at the same time in parallel in case the diplomacy didn't work. it seems to me particularly having told me earlier today, officials, that this was on hold, any kind of ground offensive to give diplomacy a chance to work, it seems that something must be coming to a head because secretary of state hillary clinton is on the way, as you say. she will be meeting. maybe there will be an announcement when she meets with prime minister netanyahu this evening here. >> it will be a late ni
, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved...
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better more enhanced improved but of course another difference here is the changing of the guards in egypt i know former president hosni mubarak had closed off the rafał crossing in two thousand and eight between gaza and egypt but the new president president mohamed morsi has not done so talk about what kind of effect this is having paula. well christine i think that's a significant point to make i mean we're looking now at the new egyptian leadership with the muslim brotherhood in power in cairo you do essentially have politicians there who have a much closer alliance to the hamas leadership in gaza but having said that though they do have a very delicate line to follow it's a balancing act that on the one hand they want to be true to their support base they want to respond to what people on the egyptian street are saying and that is to give support to hamas but on the other hand morsi and his government will not one to a made the united states so he they receive millions of dollars every year in funding from washington and so they'll want to be seen not to be too much in the hands of a
better more enhanced improved but of course another difference here is the changing of the guards in egypt i know former president hosni mubarak had closed off the rafał crossing in two thousand and eight between gaza and egypt but the new president president mohamed morsi has not done so talk about what kind of effect this is having paula. well christine i think that's a significant point to make i mean we're looking now at the new egyptian leadership with the muslim brotherhood in power in...
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egypt is playing a pivotal roll and it could give us insight as to what egypt is or is becoming. >> that's right. there is a question of trust and they do trust the new president. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. that has lead to questions of trust. and also the fact that it has appeared that egypt in the fledgling government has been helping to insight violence in the region and not actually stop it. but what is interesting, it is amazing how a billion dollars in aid -- u.s. aid can get one's attention. you can see him playing a constructive role two days after threatening them. >> egypt, watch what you do and how do you it. you are teetering with the congress with your aide being cutoff if you keep inciting violence between the israelis and the palestinians. >> and interesting because it was just two months ago where president obama basically said he is not sure egypt is now an ally. here we are two months later. the president was on the phone with president morsey three times in the last 24 hours. they are enough of an ally that the president clearly needs them and relying on e
egypt is playing a pivotal roll and it could give us insight as to what egypt is or is becoming. >> that's right. there is a question of trust and they do trust the new president. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. that has lead to questions of trust. and also the fact that it has appeared that egypt in the fledgling government has been helping to insight violence in the region and not actually stop it. but what is interesting, it is amazing how a billion dollars in aid -- u.s. aid...
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all of egypt securing its border with the gaza strip at? >> this is a very important issue. my honorable friend draws attention, and when that the president a couple days ago, we discussed the security in the sinai. is his crudely important for egypt to ensure there is such security. and i believe this situation and other incidents that happen over recent weeks demonstrate very clearly the need for that. and that it's very important to egypt to attend to that as well as bring about the piece for which we are calling. >> in the 38 agency us to help with the international community to put pressure on to get into gaza open so essential humanitarian supplies, clean water, food, medical supplies could get through. i acknowledge the foreign secretary has acknowledge the role of aid in this conflict, but not withstanding the possibility on both sides of the recent escalation. as he believed that the actions of israel have disproportionate impact on civilians at? >> i'm not going to take any further issue but you make a very important point about t
all of egypt securing its border with the gaza strip at? >> this is a very important issue. my honorable friend draws attention, and when that the president a couple days ago, we discussed the security in the sinai. is his crudely important for egypt to ensure there is such security. and i believe this situation and other incidents that happen over recent weeks demonstrate very clearly the need for that. and that it's very important to egypt to attend to that as well as bring about the...
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all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the most important thing for secretary clinton is to make sure that the commitments that are being made are quite clear. there's no misunderstandings, and it's very important to reinforce those commitments so that the ceasefire that takes hold doesn't turn out just to be a lull before the resumption of fighting. i think that's the most important thing. secondly, i think it's very important that the secretary will not only be seeing prime minister netanyahu and president morsi but also she is going to see president abbas in ramallah. he's been the ac
all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the...
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egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >> very difficult. >> he's in a very, very difficult position. he's obviously trying to not alienate the americans and the israelis, but at the same time, he's very aware of a lot of rising anger amongst the arab community about what is going on there. >> that's right. every leader in this conflict and in this region faces competing pressures. for morsi, it is just the ones you described. they are the muslim brotherhood. hamas is an offshoot. mubarak opposed and severely contained the muslim brotherhood. morsi is now part of them or they are part of their e
egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >>...
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he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of the united states in this crisis, you are always told oh, they're on the phone. so it is phone diplomacy for the united states, and that's about all. >> reporter: ann marie slaughter, do you agree with that? should the u.s. be doing more here? >> well, at this point, it's not really clear what the u.s. can be doing because although the egyptians and the turks and the qataris all have a big incentive to see a cease-fire that lasts, and i think the u.s. does, too. none of us can want it more than the israeli and the palestinians do. you can't create a settlement unless the principles act
he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of...
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both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the firing stops, the rockets stop. and, of course, there is no invasion or anything like that. so that's number one. but number two is the state department explains that it gives space, theoretically, at least, for some of those longer, maybe medium-term to longer issues, like the blockade of gaza, which the hamas definitely wants to stop. those issues might be able to be addressed. so there is kind of, you know, short-term, medium-term and long-term would be peace between israel and the palestinians, but that's very far away. but those are the immedi
both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the...
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role as a mediator or a role egypt has played in the past. well there's been a lot of the special about this here in the region i mean you need to realize that the egyptian president mohamed morsi was unable to say the word israel up until a few days ago and it actually slipped off his tongue whether it was a mistake or whether it was a test of acknowledgement of israel is something that has stood the israeli public opinion and you can see a lot of that in the commentary pages of various newspapers egypt has come to the fore it is certainly playing a central role and this has always been the intention of the egyptian leadership was to put themselves back on the map we would have seen a very different type of mediation happening if it was the former egyptian president hosni mubarak so me it's well known that he was on the side of israel he did not carry the same kind of support and he wouldn't have gone that extra mile with her months to try and broker some kind of ceasefire or perhaps try and implement what we how witnessing now home from the
role as a mediator or a role egypt has played in the past. well there's been a lot of the special about this here in the region i mean you need to realize that the egyptian president mohamed morsi was unable to say the word israel up until a few days ago and it actually slipped off his tongue whether it was a mistake or whether it was a test of acknowledgement of israel is something that has stood the israeli public opinion and you can see a lot of that in the commentary pages of various...
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a short while ago, i spoke with nancy youssef, mcclatchy newspapers' egypt correspondent. nancy yousef, welcome. tell us about those meetings going on in cairo. who is taking part? what's the latest? >> well, we heard a little bit about them today from the head of hamas. we've heard repeated suggestions that they're close to an agreement. we've heard this since saturday. it's being mediated by the egyptians by mohammed morsi and members of his cabinet. it's the first time he's had to negotiate something on this scale since winning the presidency in june. there's an israeli delegation here as well. the negotiations have been happening for a few days now. today we're hearing from people privately that there doesn't seem to be a particular sticking point but that both sides are... that's really being lost is the time that's having to happen between shuttling between two sides that won't face each other in the same room. remember though it's in everybody's interest to keep promising that this cease-fire agreement will come soon because of potential instability. if there isn't
a short while ago, i spoke with nancy youssef, mcclatchy newspapers' egypt correspondent. nancy yousef, welcome. tell us about those meetings going on in cairo. who is taking part? what's the latest? >> well, we heard a little bit about them today from the head of hamas. we've heard repeated suggestions that they're close to an agreement. we've heard this since saturday. it's being mediated by the egyptians by mohammed morsi and members of his cabinet. it's the first time he's had to...
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closer to egypt and qatar who are less radical, re western oriented, more pro-american and with open channels to israel. >> rose: so what do you think is going to happen? >> i think a new cease-fire will be put in place. i hope it will happen within the next 24 hours to prevent and avoid and do without the ground invasion with its deadly cast and then whoever takes t place of jbarras the new leader of hamas will have to impose a cease-fire. while at the same time israel will have to let go some of its blockade of gaza. and i think both sides will try the best face-saving formulas which they can deploy in that situation. >> rose: aluf, thank you so much for joining us. >> good evening. >> rose: aluf benn is the executive editor-in-chief of the israeli newspaper "ha'aretz." we'll be back in a moment. stay with us. >> rose: the fallout from the benghazi attack tonights, the death of chris stevens and three other americans were blamed on a spontaneous reaction to a video. it became clear what transpired was an act of terror. general david petraeus testified on friday, the former director
closer to egypt and qatar who are less radical, re western oriented, more pro-american and with open channels to israel. >> rose: so what do you think is going to happen? >> i think a new cease-fire will be put in place. i hope it will happen within the next 24 hours to prevent and avoid and do without the ground invasion with its deadly cast and then whoever takes t place of jbarras the new leader of hamas will have to impose a cease-fire. while at the same time israel will have to...
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official say they would welcome ten percent of egyptian troops into gaza to monitor a possible truce while egypt purportedly claims a ceasefire is imminent. also this hour the u.k. recognizes the new syrian rebel block as the voice of the people pledging support to the coalition despite a dangerous division. that confronts again loses its cherished aaa credit scores ratings agencies sounds the alarm on that spread by euro zone recovery. you saw russia on the run the while this is a policy with me hello and welcome to the program israel has reportedly warned all gaza residents to stay inside all risk becoming a target death toll from israel's ball mental the region has already exceeded one hundred victims around the course of them children john is hardly fear isn't gaza and brings us the latest. israel's assault has continued it's now day seven of operation pillar of cloud israel has over these last few days used naval and land attacks on the gaza strip so far today those attacks have been through and means only least four palestinians have been killed alone today including one fifteen year old b
official say they would welcome ten percent of egyptian troops into gaza to monitor a possible truce while egypt purportedly claims a ceasefire is imminent. also this hour the u.k. recognizes the new syrian rebel block as the voice of the people pledging support to the coalition despite a dangerous division. that confronts again loses its cherished aaa credit scores ratings agencies sounds the alarm on that spread by euro zone recovery. you saw russia on the run the while this is a policy with...
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negotiations speer headed by egypt are ongoing, and tonight the united nations secretary-general ban ki-moon arrived in cairo, just hours after egypt's intelligence chief gave an israeli delegation a letter from hamas outlining its conditions for a cease-fire. so far on the israeli side, officials say throw people have died. 68 have been wounded as the result of rocket fire from gaza and in gaza, officials say 104 people have been killed. 860 have been wounded since the conflict began. as for fire power, israel says militants in gaza have fired nearly 1,000 rockets at israel. 570 of them have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you have to keep i
negotiations speer headed by egypt are ongoing, and tonight the united nations secretary-general ban ki-moon arrived in cairo, just hours after egypt's intelligence chief gave an israeli delegation a letter from hamas outlining its conditions for a cease-fire. so far on the israeli side, officials say throw people have died. 68 have been wounded as the result of rocket fire from gaza and in gaza, officials say 104 people have been killed. 860 have been wounded since the conflict began. as for...
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from the one school minister that gaza needs to be bombed so that people they flee to the neighboring egypt and sinai i mean we've heard other comments that the people of gaza are not innocent that they elected the hamas leadership and all of them are guilty and therefore entitled all deserve all should be on the receiving end of israeli fire of course alongside this there is another battle that's ongoing and as always that is the battle in cyberspace but here the israelis have an unfair advantage it's a sphere that they know well it's a sphere that they've operated in for years have a look. while israeli politicians weigh up whether or not to send their army into gaza they've had no hesitation in morning after p.r. machines into the social media battlefield. one israeli was killed yesterday in the attack from. my house took a direct hit israeli citizens experience indescribable suffering this video offers a sophisticated alternative to the deadly reality on the ground a growing civilian death toll in gaza at the hands of the i.d.f. a very is a battle a campaign online offline in the electr
from the one school minister that gaza needs to be bombed so that people they flee to the neighboring egypt and sinai i mean we've heard other comments that the people of gaza are not innocent that they elected the hamas leadership and all of them are guilty and therefore entitled all deserve all should be on the receiving end of israeli fire of course alongside this there is another battle that's ongoing and as always that is the battle in cyberspace but here the israelis have an unfair...
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went so far as to say that gaza needs to be bombed to the extent that everybody fees from gaza into egypt sinai peninsula another point that is also interesting and the point that we've been monitoring here at r.t. is the whole media war it's a wall that israel by and large has always had the upper hand of a war that it essentially has used through the social media to garner support for have a look. while israeli politicians weigh up whether or not to send their army into gaza they've had no hesitation in bowling up their p.r. machines into the social media battlefield. one israeli was killed yesterday in the attack from. my house took a direct hit from israeli citizens experience indescribable suffering this video offers a sophisticated alternative to the deadly reality on the ground a growing civilian death toll in gaza at the hands of the i.d.f. today there is a battle the campaign online offline in the electronic media for the hearts and minds of public opinion it's very very important when the israelis killed hamas leader ahmed jabari last week they didn't just kill him they instantl
went so far as to say that gaza needs to be bombed to the extent that everybody fees from gaza into egypt sinai peninsula another point that is also interesting and the point that we've been monitoring here at r.t. is the whole media war it's a wall that israel by and large has always had the upper hand of a war that it essentially has used through the social media to garner support for have a look. while israeli politicians weigh up whether or not to send their army into gaza they've had no...
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we appreciate the constructive effort of egypt and constructive effort of the president of egypt. it was for us a pleasant surprise and i hope he will continue his task, which is necessary for all parts of the middle east. i must also say we are not surprised that iran is pushing the other direction. they are continuing to supply long-range missiles and urge hamas to fire them against cities and settlements in israel. >> listening to the israeli president shimon peres talking about the continues of the cease-fire saying that negotiations must continue, also talking about the rockets that have been launched into israel from gaza and saying that they need to talk, they need to put their weapons down. we also know that secretary of state hillary clinton is on her way to the region to meet with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. she goes on to me with the president of the palestinian authority mahmoud abbas, and finally on to cairo, meeting with the president of egypt all of them critical players in negotiating some sort of cease-fire and eventually the idea would be middle ea
we appreciate the constructive effort of egypt and constructive effort of the president of egypt. it was for us a pleasant surprise and i hope he will continue his task, which is necessary for all parts of the middle east. i must also say we are not surprised that iran is pushing the other direction. they are continuing to supply long-range missiles and urge hamas to fire them against cities and settlements in israel. >> listening to the israeli president shimon peres talking about the...
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so enter egypt. that is why she'll be going to cairo to meet with president morsi because they are the people who do have influence with hamas. and look at the words she used, you know, for egypt. that they have the opportunity and responsibility to try to exert their efforts toward some type of resolution. so she's urging them very strongly step up to the plate, as they already are, and try to bring that together. so she has to do it indirectly, you could say. >> i noticed that they're not using the word cease fire. they're talking about calming things down, de-escalation. these are significant code words. what's wrong with the word cease fire? >> you know, cease fire we are told by at least one official is too specific because they are not -- the officials here at the state department, are not really sure what either side will want to use, what kind of words. and you don't want to lock yourself into defining something that neither side has really decided on. so that's one issue. another is, you kno
so enter egypt. that is why she'll be going to cairo to meet with president morsi because they are the people who do have influence with hamas. and look at the words she used, you know, for egypt. that they have the opportunity and responsibility to try to exert their efforts toward some type of resolution. so she's urging them very strongly step up to the plate, as they already are, and try to bring that together. so she has to do it indirectly, you could say. >> i noticed that they're...
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cairo, egypt. stay in the middle east where relentless airstrikes and rockets continue to rain down despite talk of a cease-fire. to david lee miller in israel with the latest. >> stewart, it was a late night for diplomacy. the israeli prime minister netanyahu meeting with secretary of state hillary clinton. no announcement regarding a cease-fire. they both addressed the fact that whatever is produced has to be a lasting and just peace. meanwhile, hamas spokesman says israel has not responded to the latest cease-fire proposals and the earliest there could be any type of truce is tomorrow. meanwhile, we have seen today more rockets launched from gaza by militants. at least 130 of them -- one of the rockets landing not far from the city of jaw jerusalem. it landed in a palestinian village. also another rocket hit a building on the outskirts of tel aviv. this was the farthest rocket hit yet since this conflict got underway. it traveled some 45 miles and there were some light injuries in the tel aviv a
cairo, egypt. stay in the middle east where relentless airstrikes and rockets continue to rain down despite talk of a cease-fire. to david lee miller in israel with the latest. >> stewart, it was a late night for diplomacy. the israeli prime minister netanyahu meeting with secretary of state hillary clinton. no announcement regarding a cease-fire. they both addressed the fact that whatever is produced has to be a lasting and just peace. meanwhile, hamas spokesman says israel has not...
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egypt extended olive branch 35 years ago today. now you know the news for this monday, november 19th, 2012. i'm shepard smith. back tomorrow 3:00 eastern time
egypt extended olive branch 35 years ago today. now you know the news for this monday, november 19th, 2012. i'm shepard smith. back tomorrow 3:00 eastern time
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it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything to do with benghazi. then why send her out to all the talk shows if she is going to be completely divorced from it? what were -- none of this make sense. believe me, when you have a breaking news event, you put the person who is most responsible and most knowledgeable on tv. it notice that none of the men stuck up for her. where is clapper? donilon? they let her, let her blame the video and they ruined her reputation. it blame the men. >> bob: they hung her out to try because nobody else would do it. hillary clinton wouldn't do it after colin powell's expe
it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything...
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the increased islamist influence in turkey and egypt. historically they have had a fairly decent working relationship between their militaries. a lot of the changes in domestic political structure in turkey have favored the rise of islam. so turkish military is no longer cooperating as closely with israel as they once were. that the same time we've seen te rise to power in egypt, that does not bode well for the future of egyptian israeli relations. the last one i want to make, in her introduction you said it is always about the money. the best way to do this conflict is a new front, economic front opened by the iranians against the israelis. manufacture rockets for about $1000 apiece. it cost the israelis 50,000 50,000-$100,000 to shoot these rockets down. every is under pressure from the sanctions against them, they're applying pressure against israel by supplying massive quantities of low-cost rockets. melissa: so how does that play out from their? who runs out of money first? >> it is bad news for israel. 50, 60 years ago the israelis
the increased islamist influence in turkey and egypt. historically they have had a fairly decent working relationship between their militaries. a lot of the changes in domestic political structure in turkey have favored the rise of islam. so turkish military is no longer cooperating as closely with israel as they once were. that the same time we've seen te rise to power in egypt, that does not bode well for the future of egyptian israeli relations. the last one i want to make, in her...
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his relationship with egypt, assert his new role in the region. that's why he sent his prime minister to gaza. you're seeing more foreign dignitaryies visit gaza than has in the last four years. >> eliot: is there anything that he could really do? >> it's really striking that obama has taken the tone he has. before you pointed out that the british have said don't have a ground invasion. obama has not said the french work with qatar which is not--obama has been completely in their corner. why. he is not running for office. he doesn't need the jewish vote. he needs to build up credibility with israel as he understands now that he didn't in the first term if he is going to work with them iran, or, i assume he's workingthinking about reconstituting the peace process. >> i think you that's absolutely right. very insightful. >> is hamas proxy for iran. >> no, it's operating on its own and its getting more support. four years ago it's support came from syria and iran. now it has turkey, qatar it's less dependent on iran than it ever has been. >> eliot: u
his relationship with egypt, assert his new role in the region. that's why he sent his prime minister to gaza. you're seeing more foreign dignitaryies visit gaza than has in the last four years. >> eliot: is there anything that he could really do? >> it's really striking that obama has taken the tone he has. before you pointed out that the british have said don't have a ground invasion. obama has not said the french work with qatar which is not--obama has been completely in their...
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and egypt wants to be a part of the agreement. >> . for the update. >> turkey says there close to formally asking nato for patriot misfiles to strengthen the anti- aircraft offensive alder border with syria. >> the foreign minister has talked with nato on the issue and they are in the final stages. there are likely to come from germany, one of the only three nato countries the patriot missiles in their arsenal. they have signaled that they would agree to the request. >> the french government has given assurances that the nation's economy is sound after u.s. credit rating agency moody's stripped them of their prize the a.a.a. status. this follows the cut by standard and poor's and it was expected. >> hollande is trying to revive the eurozone the second-largest economy. moody's had nothing good to say about france's economic prospects. they say the country has become less competitive and its labor market has turned staid. they say this makes them more bolt -- vulnerable to turbulence elsewhere in the eurozone. the french finance minister
and egypt wants to be a part of the agreement. >> . for the update. >> turkey says there close to formally asking nato for patriot misfiles to strengthen the anti- aircraft offensive alder border with syria. >> the foreign minister has talked with nato on the issue and they are in the final stages. there are likely to come from germany, one of the only three nato countries the patriot missiles in their arsenal. they have signaled that they would agree to the request. >>...
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aid to egypt. >> egypt, watch you do and how you do it. teetering with the congress to have aid cut off if you incite violence between israelis and palestinians. >> $1 billion of u.s. aid can focus the mind of morsi who today accuse israel of aggression. raising questions if he can be the broker that former president hosni mubarak was. >> shannon: ed henry at the white house. thank you, ed. get insight on the potential cease-fire agreement, michael orrin. thank you for being with us today. i want to ask about the players in the negotiations now. start with hamas hamas. reuters is saying they have put things on the table. israel has yet to respond to what they proposed. is there anything you can tell us about that? >> hamas is saying that. i wouldn't take hamas as a credible source. listen, there is no secret formula here. it's simple. hamas fired 100 rockets in the last week. in course of 2012, 700 rockets. these people live in constant fear. they have to stop. we have to create situation that terror quist not decide every month or week to
aid to egypt. >> egypt, watch you do and how you do it. teetering with the congress to have aid cut off if you incite violence between israelis and palestinians. >> $1 billion of u.s. aid can focus the mind of morsi who today accuse israel of aggression. raising questions if he can be the broker that former president hosni mubarak was. >> shannon: ed henry at the white house. thank you, ed. get insight on the potential cease-fire agreement, michael orrin. thank you for being...
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egypt knows without a truce the conflict could spread throughout the area. both sides have conditions the leader said israel must stop killing its leaders and give palestinians more freedom to travel and import goods. israeli prime minister netanyahu, according to aides, also wanted a negotiated settlement. first, a cease-fire, then more talking. the palestinian negotiator visited gaza with a message from the cairo talks. >> yes, there is a possibility that there are serious negotiations. but israel will have to give up its attempt to cow us and look like it is a surrender. >> reporter: what are they asking from the palestinian side? >> they start with -- a call for surrender, i mean, you stop, you deliver your weapons and then we'll see what to do. >> reporter: a truce is in the works, but until that happens gaza remains under attack. richard engel, nbc news, gaza. >>> this is martin fletcher in southern israel where everyone is desperate to know, ground invasion of gaza or truce? officials say it is 50/50, leaving three and a half million israelis at the m
egypt knows without a truce the conflict could spread throughout the area. both sides have conditions the leader said israel must stop killing its leaders and give palestinians more freedom to travel and import goods. israeli prime minister netanyahu, according to aides, also wanted a negotiated settlement. first, a cease-fire, then more talking. the palestinian negotiator visited gaza with a message from the cairo talks. >> yes, there is a possibility that there are serious negotiations....
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neutralize them by getting islamic jihad to make an agreement with israel that is somehow validated by egypt and other parties important to these groups. >> is the conflict still about israel's desire for security versus the palestinian need for statehood? is it more than that? >> that of course goes on. i think israel is focused on iran trying to build up the nuclear capability and what israel might feel it has to do to prevent that. the prospect that there would be attacks launched on israel. >> what role of the americans playing? not much evidence of them. >> the role seems to have been marginal. president obama and secretary clinton have been on the phone with world leaders. the channel in cairo is an intelligence channel. there might be american participation. that is not something we would hear about because it does involve participation by a high- level american official weekend see. >> thank you for joining us. >> rebels in colombia have called a truce at the start of peace talks with the government. they have become -- begun the first face-to-face negotiations in a decade aimed at e
neutralize them by getting islamic jihad to make an agreement with israel that is somehow validated by egypt and other parties important to these groups. >> is the conflict still about israel's desire for security versus the palestinian need for statehood? is it more than that? >> that of course goes on. i think israel is focused on iran trying to build up the nuclear capability and what israel might feel it has to do to prevent that. the prospect that there would be attacks...
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this time the repository is not syria, but it is egypt, maybe turkey, and you have a secretary of state today and tomorrow to is going to plunge into this. the interesting question -- i am not want to prejudge this -- is whether or not this becomes -- is there even a conception that this would lead to an intensive bit of diplomacy that might last -- in the christopher case, it took weeks. we took weeks to produce this. i am not arguing this. i do not know if it is even possible. i have lost touch of that world. it is a interesting thought experiment because it reflects on what has changed in washington and in the regional landscape that we now confront. with that, we have 30 minutes for questions, and i will forgo mind, and i would ask that you identify yourself and ask a question. do we have a microphone? we do, i am sorry. over here, if you can speak loudly enough. >> based in beirut, lebanon. i have a question regarding the crisis in gaza, to the three panelists. do you think or do you believe that the united states did know about the escalation that was instigated by the israeli gov
this time the repository is not syria, but it is egypt, maybe turkey, and you have a secretary of state today and tomorrow to is going to plunge into this. the interesting question -- i am not want to prejudge this -- is whether or not this becomes -- is there even a conception that this would lead to an intensive bit of diplomacy that might last -- in the christopher case, it took weeks. we took weeks to produce this. i am not arguing this. i do not know if it is even possible. i have lost...
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your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the discussions were handled through the intelligence agencies here within the egyptian government. now we see the intelligence agencies talking to the israeli side where they have long-standing contacts and the office of the president, president muhammed morsi of the muslim brotherhood who of course is a long-time fellow islamist ideological ally of hamas, handling the other side. so there are all these talks within the egyptian government to parallel the talks between hamas and israel. what we're seeing the egyptian government begin to do which is i think really ver
your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the...
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>> reporter: primarily egypt and that's why it's so critical that we got this comment from egypt's president this morning. he was actually attending the funeral of his sister and when he came out he was asked about the negotiations and said that there should be positive results, i'm looking at his statement here, in the next few hours. and no elab rags beyond that. it looks like there should be some cease-fire perhaps by the end of the day. >> in the meantime president obama wrapping up his tour of asia while keeping an eye on the unfolding crisis in the middle east. there are talks of a ground war as well. that could be a game-changer? >> reporter: it certainly could. israel has said we are on the ready. our troops are ready, we have backup reserves. if they don't stop sending these rockets into southern israel, we're going in. they held off for a bit during the negotiations. but you're right, laura, if in fact we see a ground war, it could change the entire landscape of what we're looking at there right now. >> if the israelis push across the border using land forces, the narrative changes
>> reporter: primarily egypt and that's why it's so critical that we got this comment from egypt's president this morning. he was actually attending the funeral of his sister and when he came out he was asked about the negotiations and said that there should be positive results, i'm looking at his statement here, in the next few hours. and no elab rags beyond that. it looks like there should be some cease-fire perhaps by the end of the day. >> in the meantime president obama...
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and we hope to know what egypt's role looks like. we didn't know a week ago. >> it's been interesting to hear the israeli leadership praisy morsi. >> they've given him a huge amount of leeway, saying israel
and we hope to know what egypt's role looks like. we didn't know a week ago. >> it's been interesting to hear the israeli leadership praisy morsi. >> they've given him a huge amount of leeway, saying israel
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to egypt and something that senator graham made clear over the weekend is to remind egypt everyone is watching their steps. >> egypt, watch what you do and how you do it. you're teetering with the congress on having your aid cut off if you keep inciting violence between the israelis and the palestinians. >> so is this a big test for morsi to prove not only that they are a partner to the united states, but an ally moving forward? >> well, they have been a treaty ally since '79. there's roughly $2 billion in aid given to egypt every year. $2 billion isn't quite what it used to be. so if this is the one piece of leverage that we have over egypt, that's not going to work. what we -- >> even in an economy that's totally failing and upside down for egypt, it's -- $2 billion is not an incentive to want to play nice? >> i don't think that it is the only factor that will get mohamed morsi to be an honest broker in the region. i think it's much -- it would be a much better bet to appeal to his sense of wanting to be a statesman. wanting to be a responsible actor, wanting to be -- to live up to
to egypt and something that senator graham made clear over the weekend is to remind egypt everyone is watching their steps. >> egypt, watch what you do and how you do it. you're teetering with the congress on having your aid cut off if you keep inciting violence between the israelis and the palestinians. >> so is this a big test for morsi to prove not only that they are a partner to the united states, but an ally moving forward? >> well, they have been a treaty ally since '79....
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at the end of the day it will always come back to egypt for the simple fact egypt has leverage over political islamic movements like hamas and israel. it has a relationship with israel. it can sit on the table with both of the parties. turkey over the past several years since the incident where they tried to send aid to gaza and had their citizens killed has had strained relations. it false back in the lap of the egyptians. this is an important test. egypt seen itself as the center of the arab world for centuries. they take the palestinian cause at heart. they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo. that's been true for hundreds if not thousands of years. a
at the end of the day it will always come back to egypt for the simple fact egypt has leverage over political islamic movements like hamas and israel. it has a relationship with israel. it can sit on the table with both of the parties. turkey over the past several years since the incident where they tried to send aid to gaza and had their citizens killed has had strained relations. it false back in the lap of the egyptians. this is an important test. egypt seen itself as the center of the arab...